Comments on: NZ SAS heroism in Afghanistan revealed http://pacificempire.org.nz/2007/03/02/nz-sas-heroism-in-afghanistan-revealed/ Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:37:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Matt http://pacificempire.org.nz/2007/03/02/nz-sas-heroism-in-afghanistan-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-70992 Matt Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:58:39 +0000 http://pacificempire.org.nz/?p=243#comment-70992 How is it unjust? Stupid question: Jus in Bellum 1. It was not the last resort- US cut short negotiations for gung-ho, cathartic bombing raids. 2. Was not conducted with a probability of success- no long-term plans, ridiculous 'intel' regarding on-the-ground situation. Typical inter-agency rivalry resulting in complete fuck up. Jus in Bello. Distinction- typical US 'post heroic' high altitude bombing, trading low US casualties for high collateral damage. (forget about military necessity) Finally, do you think NZ is safer now that Afghanistan has been occupied for six years? Mission accomplished over there, eh? Job well done? Notch another Western triumph up? Lets give Iran a going over, I am sure with the deft American touch it will work out just dandy. End of history. Unbelievable. How is it unjust? Stupid question:

Jus in Bellum

1. It was not the last resort- US cut short negotiations for gung-ho, cathartic bombing raids.

2. Was not conducted with a probability of success- no long-term plans, ridiculous ‘intel’ regarding on-the-ground situation. Typical inter-agency rivalry resulting in complete fuck up.

Jus in Bello.

Distinction- typical US ‘post heroic’ high altitude bombing, trading low US casualties for high collateral damage. (forget about military necessity)

Finally, do you think NZ is safer now that Afghanistan has been occupied for six years? Mission accomplished over there, eh? Job well done? Notch another Western triumph up?

Lets give Iran a going over, I am sure with the deft American touch it will work out just dandy. End of history.

Unbelievable.

]]> By: Phil http://pacificempire.org.nz/2007/03/02/nz-sas-heroism-in-afghanistan-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-36703 Phil Sat, 26 Jan 2008 05:52:30 +0000 http://pacificempire.org.nz/?p=243#comment-36703 How is it unjust? How can you possibly say that Afghanistan poses no problems for NZ? The Taliban are "relatively benign"? Unbelievable. How is it unjust? How can you possibly say that Afghanistan poses no problems for NZ? The Taliban are “relatively benign”? Unbelievable.

]]> By: Joseph http://pacificempire.org.nz/2007/03/02/nz-sas-heroism-in-afghanistan-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-36692 Joseph Sat, 26 Jan 2008 03:29:45 +0000 http://pacificempire.org.nz/?p=243#comment-36692 I'm really glad to know that our country is sending off it's troops to fight in an unjust war in a country we have no problem with, and providing intelligence which kills relatively benign people, and the only reason is so the government gets trade deals with the 'States. I’m really glad to know that our country is sending off it’s troops to fight in an unjust war in a country we have no problem with, and providing intelligence which kills relatively benign people, and the only reason is so the government gets trade deals with the ‘States.

]]> By: The strategist http://pacificempire.org.nz/2007/03/02/nz-sas-heroism-in-afghanistan-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-2799 The strategist Fri, 02 Mar 2007 07:42:47 +0000 http://pacificempire.org.nz/?p=243#comment-2799 I'm glad that you mentioned the LRDG. Not a lot of NZers know that New Zealanders were the first and most prominent members of the group. Good skills in vehicle mechanics and navigation. As you say, the LRDG's role was very similar to that of the NZSAS today. I’m glad that you mentioned the LRDG. Not a lot of NZers know that New Zealanders were the first and most prominent members of the group. Good skills in vehicle mechanics and navigation. As you say, the LRDG’s role was very similar to that of the NZSAS today.

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